Nate Cull ([info]natecull) wrote,

Civil Disunion pt 1: Between Sodom and Hitler

This post of Bobbie's (itself a response to Christy's reply to Jim Wallis's Take Back Our Faith campaign (yay the Web) has got me thinking.

This Monday New Zealand's controversial new right-wing evangelical church Destiny and its Enough Is Enough campaign held a disturbingly fascist-looking protest march in Wellington in opposition to the upcoming Civil Unions Bill. Several thousand people attended.

What worries me is that I don't think they're alone in their views. To a degree, I support some of their views, if not their methods. And that's what I find really disturbing. But even more disturbing is that many of my left-liberal friends don't even understand what there could possibly be in the concept of gay marriage that could disturb Christians. Or else they think they understand just fine and that we're all sad ignorant hicks who the world is better off forgetting.

There's an article I need to write about the Civil Unions Bill, and why I find both sides scary. But basically the issue as I see it boils down to:

A: If we let the Civil Unions Bill pass unopposed, my generation sees the literal death of 'marriage' as a civil institution, not just its de-facto abandonment and decline as we see now.

B:If we stand up and challenge it, my generation sees the rise of an actually-existing Christian fascism, not just the strawman bogeyman version liberals have been prophesying for decades.

I don't much like either of those options and I don't really want to have to pick between them. But given a choice - I guess I'd have to go with A. If the moral foundation of Western law and civilisation falls apart - well, that's better than trying to hold it together by force. Sometimes there's nothing you can do and you just have to let things die.

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[info]anarchangel23

August 25 2004, 04:46:48 UTC 7 years ago

The Civil Union Bill should mean the initial step towards an extension of marriage to all, not the death of marriage.

Anonymous

August 27 2004, 12:44:35 UTC 7 years ago

Civil Unions

Of course, I change my mind on this issue constantly, and it is a lively issue in the US since judges have started overturning state constitutions and allowing gary marriage. Currently I am taking the compromise stance. What's wrong with allowing two people to register as domestic partners (whether it's 2 men, 2 women, one of each, old maid sisters who live together, or worse, an old maid mother and an old maid daughter, etc.)? Just don't call it a marriage.
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